SEARCHING FOR JOHN SPIRA
Our private investigator, Matt Hale, has been digging deep into John’s case. He has found that no accelerants were tested at the time of the fire???? WTH?? If that’s true, if there were accelerants to be tested and it was not done, that is complete and total negligence on the part of the Dupage County Sheriff’s Dept., Fire Task Force. I’m dumbfounded by that, though based on the history of this case, I shouldn’t be surprised. Also, many people keep suggesting we put up another sign. WE HAVE PUT UP ANOTHER SIGN. It’s right in front of the old UCC building on County Farm Road. I know alot of you have suggested we do surveillance but that’s much easier said than done. The logistics involved are difficult, there are expenses, and at this point in time I doubt if anyone is stupid enough to mess with the sign especially in light of all the comments on this website that suggest we put up surveillance. I’m just happy to have John’s pictures up there so David Stubben can see them everytime he drives by. Oh yea, and Matt did a Freedom of Information Act request that was DENIED!!! How is that possible. The IL Attorney General’s Office already made them turn the documents over to me after I had to appeal and now they’re denying Matt????? Unflippinbelievable.
I think the most important thing that could happen here, is for David Stubben to take a lie detector test. All of this would go away for him once he passed the test. He should have done it 5 years ago and then we wouldn’t have wasted all this time focusing on him but because he has refused, oh and because he was the last guy to see John alive and lied about that, and because somehow John’s company truck got moved right into Dave Stubben’s normal parking spot on the night John disappeared, and because Dave was mad at John for financial reasons and because Dave said nothing wrong with the finances until the heat was turned up and then started making stuff up about John and the finances in June, and because the plastic wrap was missing from the office, and because the building burned down right after we put up the big banner that went missing at the same time, and because he rushed over to John’s house to “help Suzanne shovel snow” during a search, etc….we have focused on Dave. Dave has been cowardly in his refusal to talk to the police or the press. If you’ve got nothing to hide, you hide nothing. And what must his wife Donna think…and their kids? That Dave had nothing to do with this? C’mon. If he’s truly innocent, why then hasn’t he filed a libel suit against me? Not that I’ve ever come right out and said he’s the one…I’ve simply asked that he take the lie detector test so we can cross him off his list, but if I were him and even that was said, I think I’d file a libel suit. Of course, then we’d have to show he did in fact do this, in court, where we would be able to question him under oath in depositions and at trial and we would be able to do discovery and obtain all kinds of information, including information about his finances, the company’s finances, we’d be able to depose other witnesses including all those who work at UCC and so, so much more. The burden of proof in a civil case is much less stringent than in a criminal case. Think OJ. Being an attorney myself, I know these things.
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Steph,
I couldn’t agree more. When your done with your Private Investigator. Send him my way.
Hugs – Always thinking of you…………….
Thanks Sue, will do!
Life is incomprehensible sometimes Stef,
wish there was more I could say or do…
Know I am praying for him, all the Spira’s.
Love you, H.U.G.S.
Betts
My condolences for all you’ve been through. Just finished watching “Disappeared” on YouTube. Do you believe there was an affair between his ex-wife and his business partner? It appears the FBI isn’t involved. Why not? If the locals aren’t willing to do the job they’re paid to do, all that’s left is State and Federal options. Because of the business partner’s massive debt, have you looked into the possibility of drug or gambling addictions on his part? Also, because of the big contracts that John’s business is/was involved in, you could be looking at crooked contractors, safety inspectors, administrators or law enforcement officials, any one or more of which could’ve been trying to put pressure on the business partner to fix their own problems. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if organized crime is involved. They like to get involved in “legitimate” businesses to cover their tracks. Maybe they were using the business as a meeting place, which might explain the fire. Maybe the reason the business partner won’t talk is because if he does, he’s dead. John sounds like he was a great guy who was excelling in his life, and he had people around him who were envious, jealous, tried to manipulate him into doing what they wanted, and he had enough morals and ethics to say no. He probably said no to the wrong person at the wrong time. Anyway, keep your chins up! Keep fighting the good fight, and keep the faith! Best of luck to all of you!
I saw on one of the shows that posting hidden cameras or a surveillance team around hung posters could possibly identify the person of interest.
Either way, not in a million years I thought that the police investigators/arson investigators would be so negligent and careless toward their job. This is pretty sad.
My prayers are with you! Stay strong and do not give up!
David probably knows the killer, a bad business associate, and knows what transpired but is sworn to secrecy for himself and the safety of his family.
I just saw the episode regarding your brothers case and I feel so bad for you and your family. I hope this case is solved and justice is granted.
I just felt that when the banners were taken down twice and then the fire in John’s business, I felt that the person who tore those banners down may have been possibly responsible for the fire in that building.
I also felt that the person may have been trying to hide something and prevent something from being discovered. He/She tried to derail the investigation and prevent the truth coming to light about John’s disappearance.
Also, I felt that this building was set on fire purposely and had to do with money / John’s business even before I read the above article you posted here.
I just can’t help feeling suspicious to the woman that was married to John, especially with the divorce on its way and maybe someone connected to the business may have something to do with John’s disappearance. Maybe I am wrong in my assumptions, but that is my impression.
I hope this is solved and have you thought of trying to get the services of a real good psychic that might pick up something to help solve this case? The FBI and police use them to solve crimes so maybe you should as well.
Good Luck and my condolences for what you and your family are going through.
Also, if you do hire a reliable psychic get a facial frontal picture of Suzanne Spira and Dave Stubben it will help them read the pictures and perhaps get clues. Good Luck.
One last thing….I saw another episode of Disappearance about another man that went missing named Billy Smolinski. When his family tried to also put up copies of missing flyers in the public, they also were being torn down as were the banners. It turned out the person who was behind the tearing down of those flyers was the mother of the prime suspect of Billy’s disappearance. If you could possibly find out who was responsible for the tearing of those two banners that will help the police a lot.
Good Luck.
Most Freedom of Information Statutes do not apply to many segments of law enforcement bodies, especially in the area of ongoing investigations. Of course this is a great source of frustration for families of missing persons, especially when they feel very little is being done, however, it is to safeguard any future prosecution.
I heard a blues track and it reminded me of your brother and I decided to see if there was any updates on his case.Very sad to read that you and your family do not have any closure or any justice as of yet. I sincerely hope you find continued strength and I hope you get some answers very soon.
I saw the show about John and learned alot because of the shoddiness of everything from the start. They mentioned that they searched an area where his cell phone last pinged from. I am not sure it is even viable to do so, but what about going out through that area with a really good metal detector. I bet the killer left any rings, watch, change or jewelry he may have had on him. It sounds like it was really cold out at the time so digging too deep of a grave would not have been easy, unless it was done in advance. But I think this was a last minute thing personally. I guess if it was one of my family, I would map a grid and search foot by foot every chance I had until I have covered the whole area, even if it took a couple of years.
Just saw the show Disappeared on the oprah channel. Just amazing how badly the cops and firemen screwed up. How could they not have checked for arson in the building, with an owner gone missing and the destruction of the sign. I think Dave gave John some bad news that last night and John objected to it being the good guy…. Dave is the key to it all!
Hugs and prayers to you all,
Terry
Why wasn’t anything about the business partner mentioned on the show other than he was at the office before John left Fri night?
Stephanie, I just tried to email you at spirawebsite@ johnspira.com – Please let me know if that was not correct. Thank you.
Stef- I just watched disappeared and learned of the situation surrounding your brothers disappearance…i have to say im outraged that i a stranger feel the ex-wife did it but there is no mention of her being looked at in the show and also by what ive read has transpired since. She did it for certain my senses told me that. I implore you DO NOT give up im ssure your under great duress but i know for certain truth will come to light if you keep trudging forward the parties [still alive] involved will break you just need to keep on them make it clear your still after them. they can only keep up for so long and while the wife who is also guilty is dead now [i believe b/c she was a liability] the others can still be brought to justice…i think you need to look for help from people who aren’t close to the case like a private investigator and a reporter. IF i can help you and volunteer my time please let me know i will be glad to assist you and your family by volunteering my time as i was touched deeply by all you have gone through. I am not trained in anything but i am a stay at home mom and i have plenty of time to devote to helping you.
My prayers go out ot you and family and i pray for your success in bringing the awful people involved to justice eventually.
My heart goes out to you
This Dave guy, if this is the business partner he def. Knows what happened. Who else could have gotten the signs down so quickly then had access to burn the buildung. Hope something positive happens in the near future.
I am certain it was Dave Stubben and Suzanne. I wish the police would have done a little more to put them away. Suzanne probably killed herself to finally be able to sleep at night. She took the easy way out. As for Dave, he will be caught soon or this will catch up to him in one way or another.
Stay strong Spira family.
I actually just saw disappeared and this was such a sad episode to watch. I believe that you are totally correct about the suspect. I would try to get the FBI involved into this case. I totally belive that the ex wife and the co worker are behind this. It’s totally obvious and I’m studying to become an FBI agent and the ex wife taking out the life insurance and not wanting to take the lie detecting test just gives it away. I hope this case will come to peace to your family. I hope all goes well and you catch the sick people who did this.
It is correct but unfortunately I mostly get spam so I rarely read those emails. Please feel free to email again and I will watch for it. Thanks
I believe his son to be x wife had something to do with it. Insurance money..
My sincere condolences & prayers to the family & friends of John Spira! As a former IL resident, I realize how corrupt Illini officials can be, but after watching the DISAPPEARED episode this pm, I am confused! Common sense & WHO BENEFITS make it too obvious that Suzanne Spira didn’t like the settlement and before the divorce was official, murdered him! Perhaps she paid someone who acted alone but how can there be no evidence that she’s behind his murder, business fire, etc., etc., etc.,???
Just watched your brothers story on Disappeared. I am so sorry for this horrible experience your family has had to endure. My thoughts and prayers go out to all of the agencies and individuals looking for evidence. I hope God will comfort you in His loving arms while your family endures this difficult time.
Steph. Email me at robsonpeter69@yahoo.com for some info.
Has John been legally declared dead? If not, start there. Then get some legal and investigative assistance to put together a tight timeline (small window) for John’s disappearance. This may give you a new person of interest; or better yet, you may just find that you have enough for a wrongful death lawsuit against Dave Stubben! My condolences to your entire family. Best of luck in successfully resolving this case.~~Julie
I just watched the episode about John Spira on Disappeared. It’s heartbreaking. Had a couple of thoughts which, after reading the comments, I saw were also expressed by “T”. What the show did not delve into was: 1) The terms of the divorce settlement between John and Suzanne; 2) Who was taking down the banners; and 3) The fire that burned down John’s business. All of these could be easily investigated and I agree, probably hold the key to John’s disappearance. It seems quite obvious that whoever took down the banners was involved, and more likely than not that included the ex- and/or the business partner.
For the love of all things holy, please put the signs back up and video tape them, I am possitive this will lead to your answer.
Hi iv just seen your brothers disappearance on investigation. I live in England and I wanted you to know that my thoughts are with you and hope you find your brother. Someone knows the truth and that’s why banners getting vandalized and building torched.
I’m very sorry for what has happened. It can be a feeling of no hope, when even the authorities just don’t care and give up. I will pray for your family and John’s safe return home.
We put up another sign after the second was dismantled and put up a large sign last year on the 5 year anniversary. Thanks for your email.
God Blessu and ur family..I will pray for a resolution. Its so glaringly obvious to probably anyone watching the Disapppeared episode as I have just done. I’ve shared the story on facebook and encourage others to do the same.
Hello Steph,
I am so moved by your plight. If you ever need help, paperwork, letters, searching, anything. Please get in touch. My husband and I will be there.
I watched the disappeared episode about your son. I was really concerned especially when the banners the family put up were torn down or vandalized. I have seen another episode of disappeared where a family were putting up flyers and a woman was ripping them down. They finally put some more up and then two different family members hid in two different locations and video taped the woman ripping them down. Have you thought about puting up more banners or even flyers and then have someone or a couple of people hide and record what happens. If you could figure out who is ripping them down it might give you a direction to toward. Just a thought. I am praying for your family and hope that John is found soon.